TrialTracker_MD said:On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie.
Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly.
DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:
Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:
| Baseline | Month 6 | Month 12 | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Total mass | 281 lbs | 216 lbs | 218 lbs |
| Fat mass | 121 lbs | 81 lbs | 53 lbs |
| Lean mass | 159 lbs | 152 lbs | 155 lbs |
| Body fat % | 42% | 32% | 22% |
Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.6g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.
andrew_nyc said:The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.
I read this differently from andrew_nyc, on substance rather than tone. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.
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View ResultsOne concrete data point for the thread. Practical: whatever you change, write down the date and the reason. In three months the reason is what you will have forgotten, and the reason is what makes the record worth having.
Worth separating that from the trial evidence, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
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