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Digestive enzyme supplementation — what worked for you?

SurmountFan_IN Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 8:25 AM 36 replies 2,383 viewsPage 1 of 8
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SurmountFan_IN
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Jan 31, 2025 at 8:25 AM#1

I tracked honestly for two weeks and averaged 68g of protein against a target of about 120g. That gap is the whole problem and no meal plan I have found is written for it.

The arithmetic that makes it tractable: reference weight in kg times 1.6 gives the target; divide by four for a per-sitting figure; then find four foods that hit that figure in a volume you can actually finish. Most people need two of the four to be liquid or semi-liquid early on.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: how people are hitting a protein target on a genuinely suppressed appetite, because volume is the binding constraint rather than willingness.

Tell me what I have not thought of.

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Jan 31, 2025 at 9:17 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie. Isolate powders, Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese, egg whites, lean fish, and tinned tuna all deliver a lot of protein in a small physical volume. Front-load it: appetite is usually least suppressed in the first hours after waking and worst on the day or two after dosing, so get the majority in early in the day and early in the week.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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Jan 31, 2025 at 10:09 AM#3
InsuranceTom said:
On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie.

Agreed on the target, with the caveat that reference weight and current weight are different numbers. Using current weight at the start of a large loss produces a target that is both unachievable and unnecessary.

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Jan 31, 2025 at 11:01 AM#4
SurmountFan_IN said:
I tracked honestly for two weeks and averaged 68g of protein against a target of about 120g.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

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TrialNerd_Beth
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Jan 31, 2025 at 3:56 PM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass260 lbs230 lbs207 lbs
Fat mass110 lbs80 lbs42 lbs
Lean mass148 lbs147 lbs154 lbs
Body fat %45%33%21%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.4g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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