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What do you eat when NOTHING sounds good — looking for input

bri_stats Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:36 AM 40 replies 2,070 viewsPage 1 of 8
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bri_stats
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Dec 17, 2024 at 12:36 AM#1

My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat more.

The arithmetic that makes it tractable: reference weight in kg times 1.6 gives the target; divide by four for a per-sitting figure; then find four foods that hit that figure in a volume you can actually finish. Most people need two of the four to be liquid or semi-liquid early on.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is whether the RDA is the wrong reference entirely during rapid weight loss, and what the actual target should be.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Dr.RaviCardio
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Dec 17, 2024 at 2:13 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie. Isolate powders, Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese, egg whites, lean fish, and tinned tuna all deliver a lot of protein in a small physical volume. Front-load it: appetite is usually least suppressed in the first hours after waking and worst on the day or two after dosing, so get the majority in early in the day and early in the week.

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Dec 17, 2024 at 3:50 AM#3
Dr.RaviCardio said:
On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie.

Agreed on the target, with the caveat that reference weight and current weight are different numbers. Using current weight at the start of a large loss produces a target that is both unachievable and unnecessary.

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Dec 17, 2024 at 5:27 AM#4
bri_stats said:
My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

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Dec 17, 2024 at 2:57 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass266 lbs236 lbs193 lbs
Fat mass96 lbs66 lbs43 lbs
Lean mass149 lbs145 lbs150 lbs
Body fat %43%31%22%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.5g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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