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The 30g protein per meal myth — need advice

ZaraB_AL Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 3:19 PM 9 replies 2,128 viewsPage 1 of 2
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ZaraB_AL
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Jan 24, 2024 at 3:19 PM#1

I tracked honestly for two weeks and averaged 68g of protein against a target of about 120g. That gap is the whole problem and no meal plan I have found is written for it.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: how people are hitting a protein target on a genuinely suppressed appetite, because volume is the binding constraint rather than willingness.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 4:01 PM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 4:43 PM#3
sarah.morrison said:
The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why.

Agreed on the target, with the caveat that reference weight and current weight are different numbers. Using current weight at the start of a large loss produces a target that is both unachievable and unnecessary.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 5:25 PM#4
ZaraB_AL said:
I tracked honestly for two weeks and averaged 68g of protein against a target of about 120g.

Can confirm the pattern ZaraB_AL describes. Distribution matters less than total but it is not nothing. Roughly 25 to 40g per sitting with enough leucine to trigger synthesis, three or four times a day, is more effective than the same total in one enormous evening meal — and on a suppressed appetite the enormous evening meal is the one you will not finish anyway.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 9:19 PM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass255 lbs220 lbs192 lbs
Fat mass95 lbs75 lbs42 lbs
Lean mass148 lbs150 lbs149 lbs
Body fat %40%30%21%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.4g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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