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Steady-state concentrations across dose tiers — need advice

cory_ATX Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 2:05 AM 9 replies 798 viewsPage 1 of 2
cory_ATX
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Mar 20, 2026 at 2:05 AM#1

I reconstituted a 10mg vial with 2ml of bacteriostatic water and I want someone to check my unit arithmetic before I draw anything, because I keep getting two different answers.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is how to check the arithmetic without trusting a website calculator, since three calculators gave me three answers.

Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

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Mar 20, 2026 at 2:44 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Dead space is the answer to the missing dose. A fixed-needle insulin syringe holds a few microlitres in the hub and needle after the plunger bottoms out, and on small draws that is a measurable percentage of every dose. Across ten draws it adds up to most of an eleventh, which is exactly the "nine draws from a ten-dose vial" complaint. Luer-lock syringes are worse; low-dead-space fixed-needle designs are better.

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Mar 20, 2026 at 3:23 AM#3
labquiet_amy said:
Dead space is the answer to the missing dose.

Agreed, and it is worth saying that rounding to the nearest whole unit is usually acceptable at maintenance doses and is not acceptable at the bottom of a ladder, where one unit can be a fifth of the intended dose.

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Mar 20, 2026 at 4:02 AM#4
cory_ATX said:
I reconstituted a 10mg vial with 2ml of bacteriostatic water and I want someone to check my unit arithmetic before I draw anything, because I keep…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Do it in two steps and it stops being confusing. First concentration: 10mg into 2ml is 5mg/ml. Then volume: a 0.5mg dose is 0.5 ÷ 5 = 0.1ml. Then units, and this is where people go wrong — a U-100 syringe is graduated in hundredths of a millilitre, so 0.1ml is 10 units. The word "units" has nothing to do with milligrams; it is a volume marking that exists because insulin happens to come at 100 units per ml.

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Mar 20, 2026 at 7:42 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Compounding pharmacy dose accuracy check for dosing arithmetic: I always verify my first dose from a new vial by weighing it on a milligram scale. Draw up your dose, weigh the syringe, subtract empty syringe weight, compare to expected water weight at that volume.

For a 10-unit dose (0.1mL): expected weight ~100mg of water. If it's significantly off, your syringe may be inaccurate. Cheap insulin syringes can have ±5% volume accuracy. Spring for quality brands like BD or Terumo.

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