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Insulin syringe unit conversion for compounded sema — 12 month update

BrianDallas92 Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 3:18 AM 34 replies 1,924 viewsPage 5 of 7
claudia_zurich
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Jan 9, 2025 at 11:28 AM#21

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Just received my dosing arithmetic order — packaging review:

  • Outer box: plain brown, no medication identifiers (discreet) ✅
  • Inner insulation: Styrofoam with 2 gel ice packs ✅
  • Temperature: vials were cold to touch on arrival ✅
  • Labeling: lot number, BUD, compound name, concentration ✅
  • Included: COA, reconstitution instructions, dosing card ✅

This is what professional compounding pharmacy shipping looks like. If your order arrives without these basics, reconsider your vendor.

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LibrarianMeg
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Jan 18, 2025 at 6:52 PM#22
claudia_zurich said:
Just received my dosing arithmetic order — packaging review: Outer box: plain brown, no medication identifiers (discreet) ✅ Inner insulation:…

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Jan 28, 2025 at 2:10 AM#23
claudia_zurich said:
Just received my dosing arithmetic order — packaging review: Outer box: plain brown, no medication identifiers (discreet) ✅ Inner insulation:…

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Feb 6, 2025 at 9:23 AM#24
claudia_zurich said:
Just received my dosing arithmetic order — packaging review: Outer box: plain brown, no medication identifiers (discreet) ✅ Inner insulation:…

Comparison of compounded dosing arithmetic delivery formats I've tried:

FormatProsCons
Lyophilized vialLongest shelf life, lowest costRequires reconstitution
Pre-mixed vialReady to draw upShorter shelf life (28-45 days)
Pre-filled syringesMost convenientHigher cost, shorter shelf life
Sublingual dropsNo needlesLower bioavailability, less data

I use lyophilized vials for cost and stability. The reconstitution takes 30 seconds once you've done it a few times.

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Feb 15, 2025 at 4:31 PM#25

Following on from claudia_zurich — and this may be the naive question:

What actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material?

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