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Dose-response curves — need advice

Dr.PulmRoch Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:40 AM 8 replies 1,746 viewsPage 2 of 2
Dr.RaviCardio
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Sep 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM#6
LabKate said:
Four weeks is the pharmacokinetics, not caution.

I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability. The maintenance and regain data cluster at the top doses, so a ladder abandoned halfway leaves you outside the evidence base for the part that matters most — keeping it off.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 2:16 PM#7
Dr.PulmRoch said:
I titrated faster than the label because I felt fine, hit a wall at the third step, and had to come back down — which I now think was the predictable…

Dose escalation anxiety for titration: I was terrified to move from 0.5mg to 1.0mg based on horror stories in this forum. But my actual experience? Slightly more appetite suppression, zero additional side effects.

Remember that the people posting about terrible side effects are a biased sample. Most people titrate up without drama — they just don't post about it because it's uneventful.

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Dr.SurgeonPGH
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Sep 24, 2024 at 6:07 PM#8
Dr.RaviCardio said:
I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability.

Coming at Dr.RaviCardio’s question from a different direction. It helps to ask what evidence would change your mind before you look at any. If nothing would, the discussion is not about evidence, and it is better to say so early than to spend nine posts discovering it.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 9:58 PM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Why the interval is four weeks rather than two, and whether a slower ladder gets to the same place?

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Sep 25, 2024 at 4:26 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

I held the step an extra three weeks instead of stepping back down, and it settled. Same dose, same everything, just more time — which is exactly what was suggested upthread.

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