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Reporting scam vendors — 6 month update

PurityPaulOR Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 9:18 AM 12 replies 1,708 viewsPage 2 of 3
Dr.CardioMD
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Nov 12, 2024 at 12:04 PM#6
LibrarianMeg said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 1:09 PM#7
PurityPaulOR said:
Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any…

Shipping damage protocol for vendor vetting orders: if your package arrives with visible damage, temperature excursion, or broken vials:

  • Photograph EVERYTHING before discarding packaging
  • Note the temperature of the cold pack (liquid = possibly too warm)
  • Contact the vendor within 24 hours with photos
  • Request a replacement shipment or refund
  • Do NOT use potentially compromised medication

Reputable vendors will replace damaged shipments without argument. If they push back, that's a red flag about the vendor.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 2:14 PM#8
Dr.CardioMD said:
I disagree that testing history is decisive.

Coming at Dr.CardioMD’s question from a different direction. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 3:19 PM#9

Following on from SkepticalSean — and this may be the naive question:

What a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake?

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Nov 12, 2024 at 8:31 PM#10

Reporting back.

Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.

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