SleepDoc_PDX said:

For anyone reading later: the numbers in this thread are worth checking against a primary source before you act on them, including mine.

Pushing back on SleepDoc_PDX here. This treats a plausible mechanism as a demonstrated one. Plausible is where you start looking, not where you stop.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

SleepDoc_PDX said:

For anyone reading later: the numbers in this thread are worth checking against a primary source before you act on them, including mine.

Right, and the exception is worth naming rather than left implied, because the exception is where people get into trouble.

This was answered several pages up and is worth repeating rather than re-litigating:

Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it. The narrow version usually has an answer; the broad version usually does not, and answering the broad one is how a thread stops being useful.

Moderator note: the sourcing question belongs in the vendor section and has been split out.

NauseaFreeNow said:

Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it.

Mine went the same way, slower.