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GLP-1 and gluconeogenesis — what worked for you?

matt_MKE Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 10:35 AM 50 replies 1,666 viewsPage 1 of 10
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matt_MKE
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Oct 20, 2025 at 10:35 AM#1

A1C went from 7.4 to 5.6 over nine months and my prescriber was more interested in the fasting insulin, which I did not expect.

Because it is glucose-dependent, this class carries a low intrinsic hypoglycaemia risk on its own — the risk arrives when it is combined with insulin or a sulfonylurea, which usually need reducing.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is why A1C lags the way it does, and what to look at in the meantime if you want to know sooner.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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Dr.SleepRoch
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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:00 AM#2
matt_MKE said:
A1C went from 7.4 to 5.6 over nine months and my prescriber was more interested in the fasting insulin, which I did not expect.

Insulin sensitivity test (HOMA-IR) on glycaemic control — arguably the most important metabolic marker most people aren't tracking:

HOMA-IR = (fasting insulin × fasting glucose) ÷ 405

My numbers: Baseline HOMA-IR = 4.3 (insulin resistant) → Current = 1.5 (insulin sensitive)

Anything above 2.0 indicates insulin resistance. The goal is below 1.5. GLP-1 agonists address the root metabolic dysfunction, not just the symptoms. This is why they work so much better than calorie restriction alone.

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rick_sfbay
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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:25 AM#3
Dr.SleepRoch said:
Insulin sensitivity test (HOMA-IR) on glycaemic control — arguably the most important metabolic marker most people aren't tracking: HOMA-IR = (fasting…

Complete metabolic panel trending on glycaemic control — sharing because comprehensive data helps everyone:

TestBaselineMonth 3Month 6Month 12
Glucose (fasting)1311099587
Insulin (fasting)2717117
HOMA-IR5.54.22.31.5
Uric Acid8.97.16.25.2

The insulin resistance improvement (HOMA-IR) is what my endo focuses on most. Going from 5.5 to near 1.0 is a metabolic transformation.

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Dr.LeslieOBGYN
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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:50 AM#4
matt_MKE said:
A1C went from 7.4 to 5.6 over nine months and my prescriber was more interested in the fasting insulin, which I did not expect.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Dr.GastroMayo
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Oct 20, 2025 at 2:10 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Glycemic variability as the key metric for glycaemic control success: my coefficient of variation (CV) on CGM dropped from 39% to 20%. Target is <36%, with <30% being ideal.

Why this matters more than average glucose: large glucose swings cause oxidative stress, endothelial damage, and promote advanced glycation end-products (AGEs). A flat glucose line at 95 mg/dL is metabolically healthier than oscillating between 60 and 160, even if the average is the same.

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