TrialTracker_MD said:The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.
I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.
ZaraB_AL said:Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.
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Dr.SleepRoch said:I disagree that testing history is decisive.
Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. If two explanations both fit, the useful question is which one predicts something the other does not. That is answerable; arguing about which sounds more plausible is not.
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Browse GL BiochemA narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
How people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out?
Closing the loop on my own question.
Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.