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⚠ Swiss Chems FDA warning letter December 2024 — looking for input

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mike_nyc
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Dr.RenalNash said:
Order of operations matters more than any single choice here: establish a baseline, change one thing, wait long enough for it to express itself, then…

That holds where the measurement is reliable. Where it is noisy — and a lot of what gets tracked here is noisy — the same reasoning produces confident nonsense.

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tony_orlando said:
Agreed, with a caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator.

Bookmarking. The distinction being drawn above is the one nobody else makes. Sending this to two other people who asked me the same thing last week.

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May 19, 2024 at 5:51 PM#13
Dr.RenalNash said:
Order of operations matters more than any single choice here: establish a baseline, change one thing, wait long enough for it to express itself, then…

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. Filing an objection on the n=1 problem. Personal experience is genuine evidence about one person and very weak evidence about anybody else, and this thread keeps promoting the first into the second.

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May 19, 2024 at 9:47 PM#14

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a trend.

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May 20, 2024 at 1:43 AM#15

Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. Thread quality here is what the rules are for. Keep it up.

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