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Is oral sema actually as effective as the injection version?

SkepticalSean Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 1:49 AM 10 replies 633 viewsPage 1 of 2
SkepticalSean
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Apr 27, 2026 at 1:49 AM#1

On 25mg oral, four months in, and my results are closer to the low-dose injectable arm than to the numbers being quoted for 50mg.

The practical numbers: about 1% oral bioavailability, 30 minutes fasted before food, no more than 120ml of plain water, and coffee counts as food for this purpose.

What I am after is how much of the oral variability is the SNAC absorption window and how much is dose, because the two get conflated constantly.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Apr 27, 2026 at 1:55 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all. Being a small molecule it does not need SNAC, does not need the fasting window, and has oral bioavailability in the tens of percent rather than about one.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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Apr 27, 2026 at 2:01 AM#3
sarah.morrison said:
Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all.

Agreeing with sarah.morrison, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. Worth adding that the tablet is taken daily, so a missed dose costs far less than a missed weekly injection. That is a genuine advantage nobody lists.

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Apr 27, 2026 at 2:07 AM#4
SkepticalSean said:
On 25mg oral, four months in, and my results are closer to the low-dose injectable arm than to the numbers being quoted for 50mg.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to get there because almost none of the tablet is absorbed. The dose numbers are not comparable across routes and quoting them side by side confuses people.

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Apr 27, 2026 at 2:39 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. Take it one variable at a time. Almost every unanswerable question in these threads is unanswerable because three things changed in the same fortnight, and no amount of subsequent argument can untangle them after the fact.

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