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ForumsPharmacology & MechanismsHas anyone dealt with glp-1r allosteric modulators? Page 2

Has anyone dealt with glp-1r allosteric modulators?

Dr.RenalNash Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 4:45 AM 23 replies 2,318 viewsPage 2 of 5
Dr.PulmRoch
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Jul 9, 2024 at 4:07 PM#6
Dr.RenalNash said:
The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest.

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

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Jul 9, 2024 at 8:36 PM#7

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

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Jul 10, 2024 at 1:05 AM#8
Dr.PulmRoch said:
PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing.

Pharmacist here. I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Key points from a pharmacokinetic standpoint:

  • GLP-1 agonists delay gastric emptying, which can affect Tmax of co-administered oral medications
  • Monitor patients on warfarin (INR), levothyroxine (TSH), and oral contraceptives during dose titration
  • The albumin-binding mechanism of semaglutide (C-18 fatty acid linker) gives it the ~168-hour half-life that enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state is reached at approximately 4-5 weeks after dose initiation or adjustment

Re: the pharmacology specifically — the pharmacology here is well-characterized and the clinical implications are straightforward.

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Jul 10, 2024 at 5:34 AM#9

Reporting back.

Update — tachyphylaxis to the gastric effect, persistence of the appetite effect. Two curves, and I had been watching the wrong one.

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Jul 11, 2024 at 3:08 AM#10
PeptideChemSF said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].

Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.

For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.

References:
[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
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