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mike_nyc Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:31 AM 49 replies 2,053 viewsPage 1 of 10
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mike_nyc
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Mar 16, 2025 at 7:31 AM#1

The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was constant until it was not.

What I am trying to establish is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Mar 16, 2025 at 8:26 AM#2
mike_nyc said:
The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was…

Neuroscience perspective on food noise:

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area postrema, and — critically — the mesolimbic reward pathway[1].

This is directly relevant to food noise because the central effects of GLP-1 agonists extend far beyond simple appetite suppression. The reduction in "food noise" that patients describe is likely mediated by modulation of dopaminergic signaling in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.

The emerging data on reduced addictive behaviors (alcohol, gambling) further supports this mechanism. food noise should be understood in this broader neurobiological context.

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[1] Merchenthaler I, et al. J Comp Neurol. 1999;403(2):261-280.
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Mar 16, 2025 at 9:21 AM#3
Dr.KarenChen said:
Neuroscience perspective on food noise: GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area…

Central vs peripheral GLP-1R signaling in food noise: elegant studies using brain-penetrant vs peripherally-restricted GLP-1 agonists show that ~80% of the weight loss effect is centrally mediated[1].

The key brain regions: arcuate nucleus (appetite), area postrema (nausea), NTS (satiety), VTA/NAc (reward). Peripheral effects (gastric emptying, insulin secretion) contribute but are secondary for weight loss.

This has implications for next-gen drugs: optimizing brain penetration and CNS receptor occupancy may be more important than systemic exposure.

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[1] Secher A, et al. J Clin Invest. 2014;124(10):4473-4488.
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Mar 16, 2025 at 10:16 AM#4
mike_nyc said:
The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was…

Mine went the same way, slower. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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Mar 16, 2025 at 3:27 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

"Food aversion" side effect of food noise that I wasn't prepared for: I used to LOVE cooking and trying new restaurants. Now certain foods — especially heavy cream sauces — literally repulse me.

It's not just reduced appetite; it's an active disgust response. My therapist says this is common and likely related to the reward pathway modulation. It's mostly a positive change, but I do miss enjoying food the way I used to.

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