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Has anyone dealt with got off metformin for the first time in 8 years - crying happy tears?

AmyNC_wife Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:18 AM 10 replies 2,066 viewsPage 2 of 2
amsterdam_pete
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Apr 19, 2024 at 5:18 PM#6
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
PCOS success story with glycaemic control: as someone with polycystic ovary syndrome, this medication has been transformative beyond weight loss.

My labs after 9 months on glycaemic control: A1C 5.4%, fasting glucose 89 mg/dL, fasting insulin 8 uIU/mL. My endo says these are "textbook perfect."

For context, my baseline A1C was 7.3% and fasting glucose was 114 mg/dL. The improvement has been dramatic and consistent.

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Apr 19, 2024 at 11:15 PM#7
AmyNC_wife said:
Fasting glucose improved within weeks and my HbA1c barely moved for three months, which I now understand and did not at the time.

Fasting insulin is the lab my functional medicine doctor cares about most for glycaemic control: it's a much earlier marker of metabolic dysfunction than glucose or A1C.

My fasting insulin: 28 → 12 → 5 uIU/mL over 9 months. Target is <7. By the time your fasting glucose is elevated, your insulin has been elevated for YEARS trying to compensate.

Ask your doctor to include fasting insulin in your bloodwork panel. It's cheap (~$20) and incredibly informative.

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Apr 20, 2024 at 5:12 AM#8
amsterdam_pete said:
My labs after 9 months on glycaemic control: A1C 5.4%, fasting glucose 89 mg/dL, fasting insulin 8 uIU/mL.

Complete metabolic panel trending on glycaemic control — sharing because comprehensive data helps everyone:

TestBaselineMonth 3Month 6Month 12
Glucose (fasting)1301009084
Insulin (fasting)2614107
HOMA-IR4.53.61.81.4
Uric Acid8.37.05.75.1

The insulin resistance improvement (HOMA-IR) is what my endo focuses on most. Going from 4.5 to near 1.0 is a metabolic transformation.

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Apr 20, 2024 at 11:09 AM#9

Following on from tyler_CSCS — and this may be the naive question:

Was that from a primary source or from a summary of one?

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Apr 21, 2024 at 3:40 PM#10
BariatricNurseD said:
Complete metabolic panel trending on glycaemic control — sharing because comprehensive data helps everyone: Test Baseline Month 3 Month 6 Month 12…

Glycemic variability as the key metric for glycaemic control success: my coefficient of variation (CV) on CGM dropped from 35% to 21%. Target is <36%, with <30% being ideal.

Why this matters more than average glucose: large glucose swings cause oxidative stress, endothelial damage, and promote advanced glycation end-products (AGEs). A flat glucose line at 95 mg/dL is metabolically healthier than oscillating between 60 and 160, even if the average is the same.

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