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Water bottle recommendations — anyone have experience?

LipidDoc_ATL Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 1:33 PM 11 replies 1,681 viewsPage 2 of 3
DanielChem_CHI
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Jan 9, 2025 at 7:16 PM#6
LipidDoc_ATL said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related hospitalizations in GLP-1 agonist users[1].

The mechanism is plausible: GLP-1R is expressed in the mesolimbic reward pathway (VTA, nucleus accumbens). Agonism at these receptors may reduce the reinforcing properties of alcohol, similar to the reduction in "food noise."

RCTs for GLP-1 agonists in AUD are now underway. If positive, this would be a paradigm-shifting repurposing of existing medications.

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[1] Wang W, et al. Nat Med. 2024;30:574-584.
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NurseAsh_DET
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Jan 9, 2025 at 9:30 PM#7

Following on from GenomicsKate — and this may be the naive question:

Did your prescriber agree with that reading, and if not what was their objection?

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Jan 9, 2025 at 11:44 PM#8
DanielChem_CHI said:
The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related…

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

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Jan 10, 2025 at 1:58 AM#9
DanielChem_CHI said:
The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related…

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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Jan 10, 2025 at 12:43 PM#10
NurseLeah_Nash said:
Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation.

Central vs peripheral GLP-1R signaling in food noise: elegant studies using brain-penetrant vs peripherally-restricted GLP-1 agonists show that ~80% of the weight loss effect is centrally mediated[1].

The key brain regions: arcuate nucleus (appetite), area postrema (nausea), NTS (satiety), VTA/NAc (reward). Peripheral effects (gastric emptying, insulin secretion) contribute but are secondary for weight loss.

This has implications for next-gen drugs: optimizing brain penetration and CNS receptor occupancy may be more important than systemic exposure.

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[1] Secher A, et al. J Clin Invest. 2014;124(10):4473-4488.
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