🍪 CompoundTalk uses cookies to improve your experience, analyze traffic, and personalize content. By continuing to use this site, you agree to our Cookie Policy.
Evidence-based GLP-1 & peptide discussion since 2023
ForumsMetabolic Health & DiabetesMetabolic syndrome reversal criteria — what worked for you?

Metabolic syndrome reversal criteria — what worked for you?

anna.melb_AU Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:40 PM 61 replies 3,475 viewsPage 1 of 13
This thread is more than 28 months old. Information may be outdated. Consider searching for more recent discussions.
anna.melb_AU
Member
678
2,890
Apr 2024
Melbourne, AU
Feb 7, 2024 at 7:40 PM#1

A1C went from 7.4 to 5.6 over nine months and my prescriber was more interested in the fasting insulin, which I did not expect.

Because it is glucose-dependent, this class carries a low intrinsic hypoglycaemia risk on its own — the risk arrives when it is combined with insulin or a sulfonylurea, which usually need reducing.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: why A1C lags the way it does, and what to look at in the meantime if you want to know sooner.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

14 9DerekSJ_a1c, paige_pharma, emma_london and 11 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
DebRD_ATL
Senior Member
1,678
7,890
Feb 2024
Atlanta, GA
Feb 7, 2024 at 7:46 PM#2
anna.melb_AU said:
A1C went from 7.4 to 5.6 over nine months and my prescriber was more interested in the fasting insulin, which I did not expect.

Glycemic variability as the key metric for glycaemic control success: my coefficient of variation (CV) on CGM dropped from 35% to 19%. Target is <36%, with <30% being ideal.

Why this matters more than average glucose: large glucose swings cause oxidative stress, endothelial damage, and promote advanced glycation end-products (AGEs). A flat glucose line at 95 mg/dL is metabolically healthier than oscillating between 60 and 160, even if the average is the same.

13 8RegAffairsDC, BiostatsBrad, PeptideSynthNJ and 10 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
SallyK_inj
Member
567
2,345
Jul 2024
Iowa
Feb 7, 2024 at 7:52 PM#3
DebRD_ATL said:
Glycemic variability as the key metric for glycaemic control success: my coefficient of variation (CV) on CGM dropped from 35% to 19%.

Fasting insulin is the lab my functional medicine doctor cares about most for glycaemic control: it's a much earlier marker of metabolic dysfunction than glucose or A1C.

My fasting insulin: 23 → 15 → 5 uIU/mL over 9 months. Target is <7. By the time your fasting glucose is elevated, your insulin has been elevated for YEARS trying to compensate.

Ask your doctor to include fasting insulin in your bloodwork panel. It's cheap (~$20) and incredibly informative.

12 7oliver_london, tane_welly, Dr.PathRoch and 9 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Sigma-Aldrich — Research-Grade Standards

Certified reference materials, analytical reagents, and research-grade standards for peptide verification. Trusted by laboratories worldwide.

Shop Reference Standards
rachel_ABQ
Member
178
890
Dec 2024
Albuquerque, NM
Feb 7, 2024 at 7:58 PM#4
anna.melb_AU said:
A1C went from 7.4 to 5.6 over nine months and my prescriber was more interested in the fasting insulin, which I did not expect.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud.

Last edited: Feb 8, 2024 at 12:58 AM
11 6SkepticalSean, Dr.CardioMD, EndoResFellow and 8 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
Dr.BariatricHTX
Senior Member
1,456
7,234
Feb 2024
Houston, TX
Feb 7, 2024 at 8:31 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Patient selection optimization for glycaemic control: emerging predictive biomarkers for GLP-1 agonist response include:

BiomarkerAssociationEvidence Level
Baseline BMIHigher BMI → greater absolute weight lossStrong
Fasting insulinHigher insulin → better responseModerate
GLP1R gene variantsrs6923761 → variable responsePreliminary
Baseline hsCRPHigher CRP → greater CV benefitModerate
Early weight loss (4 wk)≥3% at 4 wks → strong predictor of ≥10% at 68 wksStrong

The 4-week early responder criterion is the most clinically actionable: if you haven't lost ≥3% by week 4 at a therapeutic dose, discuss optimization strategies with your provider.

Last edited: Feb 8, 2024 at 2:31 AM
10 5maya_sedona, stefan_berlin, Dr.EM_Chicago and 7 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Similar Threads

SUSTAIN-6 to SELECT — the cardiovascular evidence timeline14 replies
GLP-1 and insulin resistance — HOMA-IR improvement data17 replies
Metabolic syndrome reversal criteria — how GLP-1 addresses all 55 replies
A1C target achievement rates — sema vs tirz comparison8 replies
SURPASS-CVOT: tirzepatide cardiovascular outcomes trial design3 replies
ForumsNewTrendingMembersAccount

Log In

Forgot password?
No account? Register