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My insurance FINALLY approved it - here is exactly what I did — 12 month update

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Dr.EndoIndy
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Oct 28, 2024 at 6:56 AM#36

From the other side of the consultation, briefly. There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

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DoseLogDan
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Nov 2, 2024 at 4:00 PM#37
Dr.EndoIndy said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. Posting only so the count is not one.

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Nov 8, 2024 at 1:01 AM#38
Dr.EndoIndy said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. Order of operations matters more than any single choice here: establish a baseline, change one thing, wait long enough for it to express itself, then measure again under the same conditions.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Nov 13, 2024 at 9:58 AM#39

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. If you are going to change something, change one thing and give it long enough to express itself. Four weeks is the usual minimum for anything pharmacological on this board, and two weeks of data has told you almost nothing.

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Nov 18, 2024 at 6:52 PM#40

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

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