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Has anyone dealt with orforglipron phase 2 weight loss data?

BariatricNurseD Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 12:45 AM 23 replies 1,601 viewsPage 2 of 5
PharmacoVig_BOS
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Jul 3, 2025 at 6:33 PM#6

One concrete data point for the thread. A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.

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Jul 4, 2025 at 1:38 AM#7

Following on from jim_asheville — and this may be the naive question:

How to read a result like this without either dismissing it or over-reading it, since the summaries all read like press releases?

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Jul 4, 2025 at 8:43 AM#8
PharmacoVig_BOS said:
A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator.

Coming at PharmacoVig_BOS’s question from a different direction. Relative and absolute effects need reading together. A 20% relative reduction on a high baseline risk is a large absolute benefit; the same relative figure on a low baseline risk is a small one, and press summaries almost always quote the relative number because it is bigger.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Jul 4, 2025 at 3:48 PM#9

Closing the loop on my own question.

Update — my curve sits below the published mean and the explanation is that the trial arm had support I do not have. That was reassuring rather than otherwise.

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Jul 6, 2025 at 1:49 AM#10
VendorMark said:
Relative and absolute effects need reading together.

Fair, and it stops being fair at the extremes. The middle of the range is well understood; the ends are where the honest answer is that nobody knows.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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