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Has anyone dealt with road trip snack guide?

LabKate Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 9:34 AM 16 replies 2,253 viewsPage 1 of 4
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LabKate
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Feb 22, 2024 at 9:34 AM#1

The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was constant until it was not.

What I am trying to establish is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 9:47 AM#2
LabKate said:
The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was…
LabKate said:
...regarding food noise mechanism of action...

To build on this — the mechanism is more complex than "it makes you less hungry." GLP-1 agonists:

  1. Activate hypothalamic satiety centers (appetite reduction)
  2. Delay gastric emptying (prolonged fullness)
  3. Potentiate glucose-dependent insulin secretion
  4. Suppress glucagon secretion
  5. Modulate reward pathway dopaminergic signaling
  6. Reduce hepatic lipogenesis
  7. Have direct cardiovascular protective effects

It's a multi-target drug with systemic metabolic effects. Understanding the mechanism helps us predict and manage side effects.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 10:00 AM#3
DebRD_ATL said:
LabKate said: ...regarding food noise mechanism of action...

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 10:13 AM#4
LabKate said:
The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was…

Same experience, arrived at from the opposite direction. Nothing to add that would improve it.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 11:19 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related hospitalizations in GLP-1 agonist users[1].

The mechanism is plausible: GLP-1R is expressed in the mesolimbic reward pathway (VTA, nucleus accumbens). Agonism at these receptors may reduce the reinforcing properties of alcohol, similar to the reduction in "food noise."

RCTs for GLP-1 agonists in AUD are now underway. If positive, this would be a paradigm-shifting repurposing of existing medications.

References:
[1] Wang W, et al. Nat Med. 2024;30:574-584.
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