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DadBodDave
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Feb 15, 2024 at 3:27 PM#11
PeptideChemSF said:
Relative and absolute effects need reading together.

This is exactly what I could not find anywhere else. Sending this to two other people who asked me the same thing last week.

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Dr.SportsMedIN
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Feb 15, 2024 at 10:01 PM#12

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Forest plot interpretation for the the trial evidence meta-analysis: when reading the pooled estimate, pay attention to:

  1. Point estimate (HR/RR/OR) — center of the diamond
  2. Confidence interval width — precision of the estimate
  3. I² statistic — heterogeneity across studies
  4. Individual study weights — are results driven by one large trial?
  5. Prediction interval — range of plausible true effects in future settings

The the trial evidence meta-analysis shows a pooled RR of 0.77 (95% CI 0.71-0.82), I²=50%. This is a robust and consistent effect.

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pete_manc_UK
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Feb 16, 2024 at 4:35 AM#13
claudia_zurich said:
Read four things before the headline number.

Propensity score matching studies and the trial evidence: when RCTs aren't available for a specific question, propensity score-matched observational studies can provide useful evidence.

A recent PSM study of 18,000 GLP-1 users vs matched controls showed reduced MI incidence (HR 0.78) over 4 years of follow-up[1].

These results complement the RCT data and suggest the benefits translate to real-world populations.

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[1] Registry-based cohort study, pre-print 2024.
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Feb 16, 2024 at 11:09 AM#14
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...regarding the trial evidence...

I think this is an underappreciated point. To expand on it with some data:

A recent meta-analysis of 18 RCTs (n=15,600) found that the trial evidence was associated with a robust effect size across diverse patient populations[1].

The NNT was 15, which is comparable to antihypertensives for stroke reduction. That's a strong clinical argument for this approach.

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Feb 16, 2024 at 5:43 PM#15

Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. Thread quality here is what the rules are for. Keep it up.

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