roxy_nash said:

Alcohol relationship change with food noise: I used to drink 2 glasses of wine most nights.

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

PedsEndoPhilly said:

"Food aversion" side effect of food noise that I wasn't prepared for: I used to LOVE cooking and trying new restaurants.

Saving this. It is the first explanation that did not require me to already understand it. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.

roxy_nash said:

Alcohol relationship change with food noise: I used to drink 2 glasses of wine most nights.

I do not accept the framing. The question has been narrowed to the version that has a tidy answer, and the part that was dropped is the part the OP actually asked about.

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. If you are comparing against somebody else’s result, check that you are comparing the same measurement taken the same way. Most of the apparent contradictions in these threads dissolve at that step.

Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. No action needed from anybody.