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STEP-HFpEF: semaglutide in heart failure with preserved EF

Dr.CardioMD Fri, Jun 5, 2026 at 8:24 AM 15 replies 386 viewsPage 3 of 3
TomFromTexas
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Jun 6, 2026 at 9:41 PM#11
rachel_ABQ said:
Albumin binding above 99% is the whole reason weekly dosing works, and it is also why the trough matters more than the peak.

Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Taking it to my next appointment.

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Jun 7, 2026 at 8:30 AM#12

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

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[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Jun 7, 2026 at 7:20 PM#13
Dr.LipidDallas said:
Steady state is the thing most people miss.

I will push back on the "any working dose is fine" framing. The maintenance evidence sits overwhelmingly at the top studied dose, and the extension data shows regain tracking dose reduction rather than tracking stopping. Holding low is reasonable; pretending it is evidentially equivalent is not.

Worth separating that from semaglutide, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

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Jun 8, 2026 at 6:10 AM#14
Dr.CardioMD said:
SELECT is the trial that changed the framing of this class, because it was an outcome trial rather than a weight trial: about a 20% relative reduction…
Dr.CardioMD said:
...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...

This is a fair point, and I think intellectual honesty requires acknowledging it. GLP-1 agonists in their current form have ~8-10 years of human exposure data. That's not nothing, but it's not 30+ years either.

However: the risk-benefit calculation should also consider the KNOWN long-term effects of untreated obesity — diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, joint destruction, reduced lifespan by 5-10 years.

Uncertainty about GLP-1 long-term safety vs certainty about obesity consequences. The calculus seems clear to me, but reasonable people can disagree.

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Jun 8, 2026 at 5:00 PM#15

Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. No action needed from anybody.

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