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PSA: Verify your compounding pharmacy accreditation (PCAB/ACHC) — looking for input

stefan_berlin Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:39 AM 20 replies 2,246 viewsPage 1 of 4
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stefan_berlin
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Apr 19, 2024 at 2:39 AM#1

My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

What I am trying to establish is what actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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kate.chem
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Apr 19, 2024 at 3:18 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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Apr 19, 2024 at 3:57 AM#3
kate.chem said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. Worth adding the genuine exception, because it is real and narrow: a change made for an identified patient where the prescriber determines it produces a significant clinical difference for that patient. A grid of fixed doses offered to everybody is not that, whatever the intake form says.

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Apr 19, 2024 at 4:36 AM#4
stefan_berlin said:
My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

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DebRD_ATL
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Apr 19, 2024 at 8:15 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

503A vs 503B compounding pharmacies for compounded supply — this distinction matters enormously:

Feature503A503B
RegulationState Board of PharmacyFDA-registered
PrescriptionRequired (patient-specific)Can compound without patient Rx
TestingVaries by statecGMP required
ScaleSmall batchesLarger production
Quality consistencyVariableGenerally higher

I strongly recommend 503B facilities. The FDA oversight and cGMP requirements mean more consistent product quality.

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