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Semaglutide and addictive behavior reduction — what worked for you?

ben_calgary Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:07 AM 10 replies 2,203 viewsPage 1 of 2
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ben_calgary
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Feb 22, 2024 at 8:07 AM#1

Started at 0.25mg with a fairly bad first week, held each step the full four weeks, and I am now at 1mg with no side effects worth naming.

What would genuinely help is knowing how much of the between-person variation is pharmacokinetic and how much is just adherence measured badly.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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PeptideChemSF
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Feb 22, 2024 at 9:38 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Steady state is the thing most people miss. The terminal half-life is about a week, so every dose step takes four to five weeks to fully express itself. Judging a step at day ten is judging the ascent, not the plateau, and it is the single commonest reason people escalate before they needed to.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 11:09 AM#3
PeptideChemSF said:
Steady state is the thing most people miss.

PeptideChemSF has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central. GLP-1 receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus stimulates POMC neurons and suppresses AgRP/NPY signalling, which is why the effect is appetite and food salience rather than physical fullness. Delayed gastric emptying largely tachyphylaxes over the first months; the appetite effect does not.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 12:40 PM#4
ben_calgary said:
Started at 0.25mg with a fairly bad first week, held each step the full four weeks, and I am now at 1mg with no side effects worth naming.

Agreed, though "tolerable" needs defining. A dose you tolerate by eating almost nothing is not tolerated, it is being paid for somewhere else — usually in lean mass, sometimes in adherence three months later.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 9:34 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

ben_calgary said:
...but the FDA says semaglutide...

Interesting point. I want to add some regulatory nuance: the FDA labeling reflects the specific clinical trial data submitted for approval. Real-world clinical practice often extends beyond the FDA label based on emerging evidence and clinical judgment.

Example: semaglutide was first approved for diabetes (Ozempic), then obesity (Wegovy). The molecule didn't change — our understanding of its applications expanded. Similarly, semaglutide may evolve as more data accumulates.

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