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TRIUMPH program (retatrutide) — my results so far

BenResearch_OR Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 9:18 PM 42 replies 1,987 viewsPage 2 of 9
COA_Karl
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Feb 1, 2025 at 9:07 PM#6
CarlaRPh_TPA said:
It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.

I would rather people stopped quoting the 24% as if it were a licensed outcome. It is a phase 2 result in a few hundred participants with no cardiovascular endpoint and no long-term safety data, and this board has a habit of treating pipeline numbers as settled.

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Feb 2, 2025 at 6:36 AM#7

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. One practical note: write down what you did and when, before you need it. Reconstructing a timeline from memory three months later is how people end up unable to answer the one question that would have resolved it.

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Feb 2, 2025 at 4:06 PM#8
COA_Karl said:
I would rather people stopped quoting the 24% as if it were a licensed outcome.

Coming at COA_Karl’s question from a different direction. There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

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Feb 3, 2025 at 1:36 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Why adding glucagon agonism to an anti-obesity drug is not self-defeating, given that glucagon raises blood glucose?

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Feb 4, 2025 at 11:12 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Rereading it with the dropout table open changed my view. I still think it is the most interesting molecule in the pipeline; I no longer think the 24% is the number that will end up on a label.

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