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Swiss Chems got an FDA warning letter — my results so far

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matt_MKE
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Sep 24, 2025 at 2:45 PM#21
SleepDoc_PDX said:
Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a…

Correct, and worth adding that it is reversible. Nothing being described here is a one-way door, which changes how cautious it is reasonable to be.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Sep 29, 2025 at 1:12 PM#22
SleepDoc_PDX said:
Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a…

Saving this. It is the first explanation that did not require me to already understand it. Taking it to my next appointment.

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Oct 4, 2025 at 11:37 AM#23

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

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Oct 9, 2025 at 9:59 AM#24
TrialTracker_MD said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

Adding a me-too, because a thread of one person's experience is not much use.

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mike.trainer_LA
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Oct 14, 2025 at 8:18 AM#25
TrialTracker_MD said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

Coming at TrialTracker_MD’s question from a different direction. The distinction that resolves most of these threads is between what is true on average and what is true for one person. Both are real; they answer different questions and get quoted as if they were the same one.

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