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PharmacoVig_BOS Mon, May 26, 2025 at 10:13 AM 6 replies 1,402 viewsPage 1 of 2
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PharmacoVig_BOS
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May 26, 2025 at 10:13 AM#1

My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

What I actually want to know is what actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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KevinCompounds
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May 26, 2025 at 10:21 AM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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May 26, 2025 at 10:29 AM#3
KevinCompounds said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Agreed, and the enforcement dates were staggered by category — 503A first, 503B a few weeks later — because outsourcing facilities have manufactured inventory and clinic contracts to unwind while a 503A makes to order.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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May 26, 2025 at 10:37 AM#4
PharmacoVig_BOS said:
My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

Can confirm the pattern PharmacoVig_BOS describes. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

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May 26, 2025 at 11:17 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

FDA inspection results for compounding pharmacies selling compounded supply: you can look up any 503B facility's FDA inspection history on the FDA website.

Check for: Form 483 observations (violations), warning letters, and recall history. A clean inspection record is a strong indicator of quality. My pharmacy has had 0 Form 483 observations in their last 3 inspections.

This is public information. Use it. Link: fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations

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