SleepDoc_PDX said:

If you are going to change something, change one thing and give it long enough to express itself.

I read this differently from SleepDoc_PDX, on substance rather than tone. Pushing back on the anecdote-stacking. Twenty people reporting the same thing is twenty samples from the same self-selected pool, not twenty independent confirmations.

SleepDoc_PDX said:

If you are going to change something, change one thing and give it long enough to express itself.

Agreed, with the usual condition: that holds for the average and this board is a collection of individuals. A population claim and a personal prediction are different things and get quoted interchangeably.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

SleepDoc_PDX said:

If you are going to change something, change one thing and give it long enough to express itself.

This answered a question I did not know how to ask.

From the other side of the consultation, briefly. The mechanism and the magnitude are separate questions. Agreeing that something happens says nothing about whether it happens enough to act on.

Reporting back.

Update — tachyphylaxis to the gastric effect, persistence of the appetite effect. Two curves, and I had been watching the wrong one.