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LL-37 antimicrobial peptide — what worked for you?

jennifer_SEA Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 12:56 PM 13 replies 1,523 viewsPage 2 of 3
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Jun 23, 2025 at 4:02 PM#6
jennifer_SEA said:
The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest.

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

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Jun 23, 2025 at 5:14 PM#7

Following on from Dr.PulmRoch — and this may be the naive question:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

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Jun 23, 2025 at 6:26 PM#8
PeptideSynthNJ said:
PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing.

Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].

Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.

For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.

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[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
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Jun 23, 2025 at 7:38 PM#9

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Update — tachyphylaxis to the gastric effect, persistence of the appetite effect. Two curves, and I had been watching the wrong one.

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Jun 24, 2025 at 1:22 AM#10
VendorMark said:
Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%),…

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

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[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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