Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.
hyun_seoul said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Mine went the same way, slower. Posting only so the count is not one.
hyun_seoul said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Coming at hyun_seoul’s question from a different direction. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.
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Closing the loop on my own question.
Update since I posted: I held at 1.7mg for a further twelve weeks and lost another 4kg slowly, which settles it for me. I was escalating because the number was available, not because I had stopped responding.