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BPC-157 oral vs injectable — my results so far

fiona_glasgow Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 10:26 AM 12 replies 1,568 viewsPage 2 of 3
TirzTom
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Mar 26, 2025 at 1:41 PM#6
kate.chem said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].

Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.

For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.

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[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
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Mar 26, 2025 at 2:58 PM#7
fiona_glasgow said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

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[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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Mar 26, 2025 at 4:15 PM#8
TirzTom said:
Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%),…

Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36). Three key modifications enable its pharmacokinetic profile:

  1. Aib8 substitution: DPP-4 resistance (prevents enzymatic degradation)
  2. Arg34 substitution: improved chemical stability
  3. C18 fatty diacid at Lys26: albumin binding → long half-life

These three modifications transform a peptide with a 2-minute half-life (native GLP-1) into one with a 168-hour half-life (semaglutide). A masterclass in peptide engineering.

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Mar 26, 2025 at 5:32 PM#9

One thing that is still open after GraceAZ_72’s answer:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

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Mar 26, 2025 at 11:40 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Closing this out: the trough rather than the peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.

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