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Survodutide SYNCHRONIZE Phase 3 — what worked for you?

robert_kc Sun, May 25, 2025 at 12:11 PM 9 replies 1,471 viewsPage 2 of 2
FDA_TrackerJim
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May 25, 2025 at 1:27 PM#6
mike_nyc said:
Relative and absolute effects need reading together.

Pushing back on mike_nyc here. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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May 25, 2025 at 1:56 PM#7

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.

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Dr.SurgeonPGH
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May 25, 2025 at 2:25 PM#8
FDA_TrackerJim said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud. Trial participants get titration by protocol, scheduled contact, free drug and dietetic support; removing that infrastructure costs a few percentage points every time it has been measured. When your own curve sits below the published mean, that is the likeliest explanation before anything about you or your material.

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May 25, 2025 at 2:54 PM#9

One thing that is still open after mike_mod’s answer:

How to read a result like this without either dismissing it or over-reading it, since the summaries all read like press releases?

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May 25, 2025 at 5:12 PM#10

Reporting back.

Follow-up: I read the paper rather than the summary and the qualifier I was missing was in the second paragraph of the results.

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