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Oral semaglutide 25mg vs 50mg — looking for input

pam_stl Thu, May 30, 2024 at 9:03 AM 55 replies 2,751 viewsPage 2 of 11
anders_CPH
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May 30, 2024 at 9:25 PM#6
julia.endo said:
Oral semaglutide is absorbed in the stomach with the help of SNAC, which locally raises pH and protects the peptide long enough to cross.

I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience. Adherence data on daily orals with timing requirements is consistently worse than weekly injections, and a drug you take imperfectly is a lower dose than the one on the box.

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May 31, 2024 at 2:18 AM#7

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. For anyone assembling their own picture: Tmax is one to three days, terminal half-life about 165 to 170 hours, steady state at four to five weeks, and subcutaneous bioavailability near 89%. Those four numbers explain most of the questions people ask about timing.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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May 31, 2024 at 7:11 AM#8
anders_CPH said:
I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience.

Coming at anders_CPH’s question from a different direction. The dose-response is real but shallow at the top. Across STEP 1 and STEP 4 the gap between 1.7mg and 2.4mg is a couple of percentage points of body weight on average, and the average is carrying a wide spread — plenty of people at 1.7mg sit above the 2.4mg mean. If a dose is working and tolerable, "working" is the relevant variable, not "maximal".

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May 31, 2024 at 12:04 PM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How much of the oral variability is the SNAC absorption window and how much is dose, because the two get conflated constantly?

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Jun 1, 2024 at 11:33 AM#10

Reporting back.

Update — I went back to the injectable. Not because the tablet did not work, but because the fasting window and my mornings were never going to agree.

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