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COA red flag compilation — what worked for you?

Dr.PathRoch Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 8:28 AM 28 replies 1,232 viewsPage 1 of 6
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Feb 18, 2026 at 8:28 AM#1

Posting this because the summary going around does not say what the paper says, and the difference matters for how people here are using it.

The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product. A bad batch comes with communication, a reshipment offer and a batch number. An exit comes with slower replies, pressure toward less reversible payment methods, sudden discounting, and the same reassurance repeated without any new information. The product tells you less than the correspondence does.

Where I think it is weakest: the follow-up is short relative to how long people actually take these drugs, so durability is an assumption here rather than a finding.

What I am after is what a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake. Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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Feb 18, 2026 at 8:54 AM#2
Dr.PathRoch said:
The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.

Agreeing with Dr.PathRoch, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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Feb 18, 2026 at 9:20 AM#3
Dr.PathRoch said:
The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

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Feb 18, 2026 at 9:46 AM#4

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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Feb 18, 2026 at 12:09 PM#5
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Agreed, and mass spec answers a question purity does not: identity. High purity tells you one thing dominates the chromatogram, not that it is the molecule you ordered. A mass within about a dalton of expected is the identity check.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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