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Non-invasive MASH biomarkers — March 2026

AttorneyGrant Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 1:03 AM 54 replies 3,138 viewsPage 10 of 11
Dr.NateNeph
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Dec 13, 2024 at 12:37 PM#46

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion. Almost every disagreement here turns out to be two people measuring different things and comparing the numbers anyway.

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AttorneyGrant
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Dec 24, 2024 at 2:52 PM#47

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Update, and it is the boring outcome: nothing was wrong. The measurement I was reading had moved less than its own week-to-week variation, which somebody said upthread and I did not believe.

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Jan 4, 2025 at 5:01 PM#48
Dr.NateNeph said:
Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

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Dr.PeteFamMed
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Jan 15, 2025 at 7:03 PM#49

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Practical: whatever you change, write down the date and the reason. In three months the reason is what you will have forgotten, and the reason is what makes the record worth having.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

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Dr.NutriCornell
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Jan 26, 2025 at 8:59 PM#50

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

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