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How to commission independent testing — need advice

jennifer_SEA Sat, Oct 4, 2025 at 11:43 PM 13 replies 1,258 viewsPage 2 of 3
DanielChem_CHI
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Oct 5, 2025 at 1:18 AM#6
PharmacoVig_BOS said:
Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself…

I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is. The document tells you about a sample somebody chose to send, at a moment in time, and nothing about the vial in your hand. Independent purchase-and-test is a different quality of evidence and everything else is inference.

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Oct 5, 2025 at 1:55 AM#7
jennifer_SEA said:
I have a certificate reporting 99.2% purity and 6.1mg content on a vial sold as 5mg, and I cannot work out whether those two numbers are consistent or…

Mass spectrometry confirmation for certificates of analysis: beyond HPLC purity, mass spec tells you the molecule's exact molecular weight. This confirms identity — not just purity.

Why this matters: HPLC can show you a "pure" compound, but if it's pure of the WRONG compound, purity is meaningless. Mass spec at m/z 4113.58 Da confirms it's actually semaglutide. My Janoshik report includes both HPLC and mass spec.

If your testing provider only offers HPLC, consider upgrading to include mass spec for at least your first batch from a new vendor.

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Oct 5, 2025 at 2:32 AM#8
DanielChem_CHI said:
I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is.

COA red flags for certificates of analysis — here's what to look for when reviewing a Certificate of Analysis:

  • No HPLC data: If there's no chromatography graph, it's not a real COA
  • Exact 100% purity: Suspicious — real testing always shows slight variation
  • No batch number: Can't trace back to specific production
  • No endotoxin testing: For injectables, this is essential
  • Template looks like it was made in Word: Professional labs have standardized formats

I have seen fake COAs that are literally photoshopped. Always verify independently if possible.

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Oct 5, 2025 at 3:09 AM#9

One thing that is still open after Dr.NephBHM_UK’s answer:

Whether a purity figure and a content figure can disagree without one of them being wrong?

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Oct 5, 2025 at 6:05 AM#10

Reporting back.

Purity and content being different measurements was the piece I was missing. The vial was overfilled and pure, which is a very different problem from the one I thought I had.

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