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Anyone else get weird vivid dreams on sema?? — July 2024

JessicaH_TX Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 4:48 AM 14 replies 1,968 viewsPage 1 of 3
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JessicaH_TX
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Aug 17, 2024 at 4:48 AM#1

The nausea I get is not really nausea, it is an aversion. Food I want in the abstract becomes repellent in front of me, which no side-effect list describes.

What would genuinely help is knowing what distinguishes the nausea you can titrate through from the nausea that means stop.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Aug 17, 2024 at 5:10 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The line between titrate-through and stop is not severity, it is trajectory and what else is present. Nausea that peaks and improves within a week is the expected pattern. Nausea that is escalating, or that comes with severe upper-abdominal pain radiating to the back, or that prevents fluids for more than a day, is a different conversation and belongs with a clinician the same day.

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Aug 17, 2024 at 5:32 AM#3
BariatricNurseD said:
The line between titrate-through and stop is not severity, it is trajectory and what else is present.

Agreed on adaptation, with a caveat: adaptation applies to gastric emptying and not to everything. If your problem is the aversion rather than the fullness, waiting does less, because the aversion is central and it is the mechanism working as intended.

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Aug 17, 2024 at 5:54 AM#4
JessicaH_TX said:
The nausea I get is not really nausea, it is an aversion.

Can confirm the pattern JessicaH_TX describes. The practical protocol is dull and it works: smaller meals, stop eating at the first sign of fullness rather than at the end of the plate, drop the fat fraction of meals in the two days after dosing, and do not lie down straight after eating. Most of what people call unmanageable nausea is a meal-size and meal-composition problem interacting with a stomach that is emptying slowly.

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Aug 17, 2024 at 7:54 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. The mechanism and the magnitude are separate questions. Agreeing that something happens says nothing about whether it happens enough to act on.

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