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[PREMIUM] 18-month transformation — 12 month update

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steph_laguna
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Jun 13, 2024 at 7:47 PM#26
Dr.SleepRoch said:
It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.

Coming at Dr.SleepRoch’s question from a different direction. Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it. The narrow version usually has an answer; the broad version usually does not, and answering the broad one is how a thread stops being useful.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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PeptideSynthNJ
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Jun 15, 2024 at 1:39 PM#27

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the same conditions. Nobody wants that answer and it is still the answer.

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PharmacoVig_BOS
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Jun 17, 2024 at 7:30 AM#28

One thing that is still open after Dr.SleepRoch’s answer:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

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Jun 19, 2024 at 1:20 AM#29
PeptideSynthNJ said:
The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the…

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. Filing an objection on the n=1 problem. Personal experience is genuine evidence about one person and very weak evidence about anybody else, and this thread keeps promoting the first into the second.

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rick_sfbay
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Jun 20, 2024 at 7:09 PM#30

Reporting back.

Closing the loop. The answer turned out to depend on the detail I had left out of the opening post, which is a lesson about how to ask rather than about the subject.

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