Dr.PulmRoch said:It helps to ask what evidence would change your mind before you look at any.
Same experience, arrived at from the opposite direction. Nothing to add that would improve it.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly. Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it. The narrow version usually has an answer; the broad version usually does not, and answering the broad one is how a thread stops being useful.
Happy to go further on any of that.
Dr.GastroMayo said:Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it.
This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth.
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View ResultsDr.GastroMayo said:Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it.
There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.
Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. Tagging this one for the weekly digest.