CarlaRPh_TPA said:

The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.

True, with the qualification that this is a self-selected group. The people for whom it did not work post less, and that shapes everything we think we know.

marco_milano said:

Agreed, with a caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator.

Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them.

CarlaRPh_TPA said:

The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.

I do not accept the framing. The question has been narrowed to the version that has a tidy answer, and the part that was dropped is the part the OP actually asked about.

One concrete data point for the thread. Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a trend.

Moderator note: the sourcing question belongs in the vendor section and has been split out. Thread quality here is what the rules are for. Keep it up.