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Has anyone dealt with this vendor ghosted me after i paid, anyone else???

kevin_tulsa Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 12:03 AM 8 replies 1,730 viewsPage 1 of 2
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kevin_tulsa
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Oct 7, 2024 at 12:03 AM#1

This is the version of the explanation I wish somebody had given me, written down before I forget what confused me. It is about vendor vetting, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product. A bad batch comes with communication, a reshipment offer and a batch number. An exit comes with slower replies, pressure toward less reversible payment methods, sudden discounting, and the same reassurance repeated without any new information. The product tells you less than the correspondence does.

The condition it depends on

One flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency. Consistency means separate batches, separately commissioned, over months.

The practical version

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

What I am not sure about

What would genuinely help is knowing how people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out. Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

— kevin_tulsa · corrections welcome and will be edited into this post with credit
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NeuroNate
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Oct 7, 2024 at 12:25 AM#2
kevin_tulsa said:
The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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amsterdam_pete
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Oct 7, 2024 at 12:47 AM#3
kevin_tulsa said:
The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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Oct 7, 2024 at 1:09 AM#4

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Oct 7, 2024 at 3:08 AM#5
NeuroNate said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale. Posting only so the count is not one.

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