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Found a vendor with insanely cheap prices - too good to be true? — need advice

lisa_labSD Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 2:24 AM 49 replies 2,859 viewsPage 1 of 10
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lisa_labSD
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Sep 12, 2024 at 2:24 AM#1

Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any single result.

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

The narrow version of the question is how people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Dr.ReproEndo
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Sep 12, 2024 at 2:44 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 3:04 AM#3
Dr.ReproEndo said:
Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion.

Right, and one flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency. Consistency means separate batches, separately commissioned, over months.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 3:24 AM#4
lisa_labSD said:
Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product. A bad batch comes with communication, a reshipment offer and a batch number. An exit comes with slower replies, pressure toward less reversible payment methods, sudden discounting, and the same reassurance repeated without any new information. The product tells you less than the correspondence does.

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julia.endo
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Sep 12, 2024 at 5:13 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Shipping damage protocol for vendor vetting orders: if your package arrives with visible damage, temperature excursion, or broken vials:

  • Photograph EVERYTHING before discarding packaging
  • Note the temperature of the cold pack (liquid = possibly too warm)
  • Contact the vendor within 24 hours with photos
  • Request a replacement shipment or refund
  • Do NOT use potentially compromised medication

Reputable vendors will replace damaged shipments without argument. If they push back, that's a red flag about the vendor.

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