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Glucagon receptor signaling — what worked for you?

KristenIndy Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 2:45 AM 14 replies 2,333 viewsPage 2 of 3
CarlaRPh_TPA
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Jan 9, 2024 at 4:40 AM#6
TirzTom said:
The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. This treats a plausible mechanism as a demonstrated one. Plausible is where you start looking, not where you stop.

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Jan 9, 2024 at 5:24 AM#7

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Numbers worth memorising for this class: Tmax one to three days for the weekly peptides, terminal half-life about a week for semaglutide and about five days for tirzepatide, steady state at four to five half-lives, subcutaneous bioavailability high enough that site choice is irrelevant.

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Jan 9, 2024 at 6:08 AM#8
CarlaRPh_TPA said:
This treats a plausible mechanism as a demonstrated one.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

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Jan 9, 2024 at 6:52 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working?

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Jan 9, 2024 at 10:24 AM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Closing this out: the trough rather than the peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.

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