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SOUL trial preliminary data — need advice

roxy_nash Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 8:00 PM 11 replies 847 viewsPage 3 of 3
KetoKyle
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Mar 25, 2026 at 8:09 PM#11
Dr.LipidDallas said:
Relative and absolute effects need reading together.

Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them. Sending this to two other people who asked me the same thing last week.

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Mar 27, 2026 at 11:59 AM#12

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Bayesian meta-analysis perspective on the trial evidence: traditional frequentist meta-analyses report point estimates and confidence intervals. Bayesian approaches provide probability distributions that are more intuitive for clinical decision-making.

For example: "There is a 98.5% probability that semaglutide 2.4mg produces >10% weight loss vs placebo" is more actionable than "RR 3.4, 95% CI 2.8-4.1, p<0.001."

The the trial evidence evidence is strong under both frameworks, but Bayesian analysis better communicates the degree of certainty for individual patient counseling.

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Mar 29, 2026 at 3:48 AM#13
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
Propensity score matching studies and the trial evidence: when RCTs aren't available for a specific question, propensity score-matched observational…

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. Not convinced. The evidence being cited is consistent with the conclusion and also consistent with two other conclusions nobody has ruled out.

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Mar 30, 2026 at 7:36 PM#14

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the same conditions. Nobody wants that answer and it is still the answer.

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Apr 1, 2026 at 11:23 AM#15

Moderator note: two posts asking for a source have been merged into one. Please search the thread before asking again. Carry on.

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