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Amylin co-agonism: CagriSema REDEFINE results and implications — 6 month update

Dr.SportsMedIN Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 10:44 AM 31 replies 1,645 viewsPage 1 of 7
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Dr.SportsMedIN
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Apr 16, 2025 at 10:44 AM#1

Read the primary source rather than the write-up and the two do not agree, so here is what is actually in it.

Amylin analogues act on a different satiety circuit — area postrema and dorsal raphe — rather than the arcuate pathway GLP-1 agonists use. Because the mechanisms are complementary rather than additive on the same receptor, the combination gets more effect without the tolerability cost of simply pushing GLP-1 higher. REDEFINE-2 put cagrisema near 22.7% against about 15.8% for semaglutide alone.

Where I think it is weakest: the completion rate deserves as much attention as the headline, because a large effect among those who finished is a different claim from a large effect among those enrolled.

What would genuinely help is knowing whether the amylin component adds anything beyond what a higher GLP-1 dose would achieve. Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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Apr 16, 2025 at 11:02 AM#2
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
Amylin analogues act on a different satiety circuit — area postrema and dorsal raphe — rather than the arcuate pathway GLP-1 agonists use.

Agreed, and the adaptation point cuts both ways: tachyphylaxis to gastric emptying is why tolerability improves, and it is also why people who were relying on physical fullness feel the effect fade while the appetite effect is still working.

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Apr 16, 2025 at 11:20 AM#3
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
Amylin analogues act on a different satiety circuit — area postrema and dorsal raphe — rather than the arcuate pathway GLP-1 agonists use.

Pushing back on Dr.SportsMedIN here. Two drugs, two side-effect profiles, one price. The efficiency argument only works if the tolerability really is better than dose-escalating a single agent, and I have not seen that demonstrated head to head.

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Apr 16, 2025 at 11:38 AM#4

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The pharmacokinetics explain nearly every practical question asked here. Albumin binding above 99% slows clearance enough to make weekly dosing possible; a terminal half-life near a week means four to five weeks to steady state and therefore a four-week titration interval; subcutaneous bioavailability around 89% means injection site barely matters. Those three facts answer most timing questions before they are asked.

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Apr 16, 2025 at 1:17 PM#5
sarah.morrison said:
Agreed, and the adaptation point cuts both ways: tachyphylaxis to gastric emptying is why tolerability improves, and it is also why people who were…

Adding a me-too, because a thread of one person's experience is not much use. Posting only so the count is not one.

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