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ForumsCardiovascular OutcomesDo the heart benefits go away if I stop taking it? — looking for input Page 6

Do the heart benefits go away if I stop taking it? — looking for input

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sophie_paris
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Dec 30, 2024 at 3:30 AM#26
quinn_sf said:
Vitamin deficiency cascade with cardiovascular risk: after 6+ months of reduced food intake, I developed a subtle but important pattern: low B12 →…

Senior perspective on cardiovascular risk: I'm 64 years old and started this journey skeptically. My cardiologist recommended it after years of failed interventions.

10 months later: down 47 lbs, more mobile, pain reduced, medications simplified. My quality of life has improved dramatically. I wish this existed 20 years ago.

To other older adults hesitating: the SELECT trial proved benefit in our age group. You deserve to feel good in your body regardless of age.

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Jan 8, 2025 at 2:05 AM#27
quinn_sf said:
Vitamin deficiency cascade with cardiovascular risk: after 6+ months of reduced food intake, I developed a subtle but important pattern: low B12 →…

This answered a question I did not know how to ask.

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Jan 17, 2025 at 12:35 AM#28

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Jan 25, 2025 at 10:59 PM#29
TrialTracker_MD said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud.

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Feb 3, 2025 at 9:18 PM#30
TrialTracker_MD said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling, reduces NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreases monocyte/macrophage adhesion to endothelium[1].

Clinical correlates: hsCRP reduction of 30-60% (consistently seen across trials), reduced carotid intima-media thickness, and decreased coronary plaque inflammation on PET imaging.

These anti-inflammatory effects likely contribute to the cardiovascular benefit seen in SELECT — and may explain benefits beyond what weight loss alone would predict.

References:
[1] Hogan AE, et al. Diabetologia. 2014;57(4):781-784.
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