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GLP-1 and arterial inflammation — my results so far

InsuranceTom Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 10:26 AM 13 replies 1,976 viewsPage 1 of 3
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InsuranceTom
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Aug 17, 2024 at 10:26 AM#1

My reason for being on this is cardiovascular rather than cosmetic, which puts me in a small minority in most of these threads.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: how much of the SELECT benefit is plausibly independent of the weight loss, and whether that distinction changes anything practical.

Tell me what I have not thought of.

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Aug 17, 2024 at 11:04 AM#2
InsuranceTom said:
My reason for being on this is cardiovascular rather than cosmetic, which puts me in a small minority in most of these threads.

I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

The SELECT trial demonstrated a 20% reduction in MACE with semaglutide 2.4mg[1]. This is practice-changing because the CV benefit appears to be independent of the degree of weight loss — suggesting direct vascular and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

For cardiovascular risk, this means we need to think beyond the primary outcome and consider the cardiovascular implications. The all-cause mortality reduction (HR 0.81) is the most clinically meaningful signal.

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[1] Lincoff AM, et al. N Engl J Med. 2023;389(24):2221-2232.
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Aug 17, 2024 at 11:42 AM#3
Dr.GastroMayo said:
I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

Dizziness and cardiovascular risk: I was lightheaded for the first 2 weeks. Root cause was a combination of reduced caloric intake and mild dehydration.

Fix: minimum 80-100oz water daily, don't skip meals even if you're not hungry (eat small protein-rich snacks), and stand up slowly from sitting/lying positions. Also check your blood pressure — GLP-1-induced weight loss can make BP meds too strong, requiring dose reduction.

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Aug 17, 2024 at 12:20 PM#4
InsuranceTom said:
My reason for being on this is cardiovascular rather than cosmetic, which puts me in a small minority in most of these threads.

Second this.

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Aug 17, 2024 at 3:53 PM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling, reduces NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreases monocyte/macrophage adhesion to endothelium[1].

Clinical correlates: hsCRP reduction of 30-60% (consistently seen across trials), reduced carotid intima-media thickness, and decreased coronary plaque inflammation on PET imaging.

These anti-inflammatory effects likely contribute to the cardiovascular benefit seen in SELECT — and may explain benefits beyond what weight loss alone would predict.

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[1] Hogan AE, et al. Diabetologia. 2014;57(4):781-784.
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