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SELECT cost-effectiveness — 6 month update

PeptideChemSF Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 6:10 PM 14 replies 2,150 viewsPage 3 of 3
COA_Karl
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Jun 15, 2024 at 8:29 AM#11
NurseLeah_Nash said:
Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling,…

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Jun 16, 2024 at 5:20 PM#12
LabKate said:
Agreed, and coverage criteria are plan-specific rather than insurer-specific.

This answered a question I did not know how to ask.

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Jun 18, 2024 at 2:12 AM#13
NurseLeah_Nash said:
Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling,…

Pushing back on NurseLeah_Nash here. The affordability discussion here usually stops at individual tactics. At list price this class is out of reach for most of the people who would benefit, and no amount of appeal strategy changes that — it is a pricing problem wearing a paperwork costume.

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Jun 19, 2024 at 11:04 AM#14
PeptideChemSF said:
My reason for being on this is cardiovascular rather than cosmetic, which puts me in a small minority in most of these threads.

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

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[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Jun 20, 2024 at 7:57 PM#15

Moderator note: reminder that nothing in this thread is medical advice, and that clinical claims need a source. Tagging this one for the weekly digest.

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